Owning Bonds Is ‘Stupid,’ and They’re in a ‘Bubble,’ Says Ray Dalio

Small yields, high prices, and too much supply spell trouble, hedge fund chief warns.

Ray Dalio

To Ray Dalio, buying bonds is “stupid.” The bond market worldwide is in a “bubble,” he declares. And fixed income pays too little to bother with, in his view.

A world awash in debt is headed for big problems, the head of hedge fund powerhouse Bridgewater Associates wrote in a LinkedIn essay. “As the amounts outstanding grow, the risks also grow,” he contended.

And given Washington’s big countercyclical spending, with President Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion aid package the latest addition, the vast ocean of global debt will only get larger and more unmanageable, Dalio said. This is a stance that is taking hold in some corners of the financial realm.

The over-supply of debt around today, he complained, is not a safe thing for investors. “The world is a) substantially overweighted in bonds (and other financial assets, especially US bonds),” Dalio wrote, “at the same time that b) governments (especially the US) are producing enormous amounts more debt.” 

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Plus, he argued, inflation is steadily eroding bonds’ value, even though its rise is still muted. For investors, buying bonds in most major nations today, he admonished, “will be guaranteed to have a lot less buying power in the future.”

For Dalio, bond prices (which increase as yields drop) likely are close to their upper limits. A brutal selloff of the world’s enormous bond holdings—$75 trillion from the US alone—would really mess things up, he warned, entailing a vicious circle: “If bond prices fall significantly, that will produce significant losses for holders of them, which could encourage more selling.” 

At the moment, he wrote, “Bond markets offer ridiculously low yields.” To be sure, the bond market doesn’t give investors much to get excited about. The Bloomberg Barclays US Aggregate bond index, or Agg, has lost 3.25% this year.

The 10-year Treasury has climbed to a (recent) perch of 1.62%, which is low by historical standards. China’s equivalent is a relatively lofty 3.3%. So investors are gradually shifting to Chinese bonds, Dalio said.

In the US, you always can buy junk bonds, which now yield an average 4.4%, not bad but not great—and they have higher default risk than other paper. In Europe and Japan, yields are negative.

Not everyone agrees with Dalio’s dour outlook for fixed income. Take Jeffrey Gundlach, head of DoubleLine Capital and a towering figure in the bond world. In a recent webcast, he said their yields will move up over time, but that time has not come. Ongoing Federal Reserve bond buying and possible attempts to head off hikes on the long end, called yield curve control, are powerful forces that could thwart any huge bond selloff.

Indeed, while some inflationary signs are around, as the economy opens up and expands again, an up-trend for yields seems logical. Nonetheless, deflationary forces such as technology and globalization remain strong.

Dalio’s prescription for investors is to have a diversified portfolio, with a lot in non-dollar assets (he also is a dollar bear) and focused on equities (hey, he’s a stock guy, primarily).

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Big Oil Strikes Back at ESG

A Texas bill would force the state’s retirement systems to divest from companies that divest from fossil fuels.


Texas legislators are considering a bill that would aim to strike a blow for the state’s oil industry against the growing trend of institutional investors seeking to avoid or divest from fossil fuel companies.

Texas’ Senate Bill 13, which was introduced by Sen. Brian Birdwell and four of his fellow Republican state senators, would force the state’s retirement systems and pension funds—which manage well over $200 billion in assets—to divest from any company that refuses to invest in fossil fuels.

The retirement systems that would be barred from doing business with firms that divest from fossil fuels include the Employees Retirement System of Texas (ERS), the Teacher Retirement System of Texas (TRS), the Texas Municipal Retirement System (TMRS), the Texas County and District Retirement System (TCDRS), the Texas Emergency Services Retirement System (TESRS), and the Texas Permanent School Fund (PSF).

The state’s powerful energy sector lobby has taken a page from the anti-Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement’s tactics of pushing for laws and resolutions that oppose boycotts of Israel.

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Last month, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said energy companies “are being treated a little bit like the state of Israel,” according to the Austin American-Statesman, adding that “any Wall Street firm that says, ‘we are turning our back on the oil and gas industry in Texas and we will not loan them money (and) we will not invest’—Texas is not going to give them any of our money to hold or invest.”

Patrick said he thought the bill “will pass easily,” adding that it is one of his legislative priorities.

In 2017, Texas signed a similar bill into law that bans business with companies that support a boycott of Israel. However, that law is currently being challenged in court as being unconstitutional after the Employees Retirement System of Texas divested from Norwegian company DNB ASA because of its boycott of Israel.

The proposed legislation targeting anti-fossil fuel companies would prevent Texas’ state pension funds from doing business with a slew of institutional investors that have recently pledged to avoid and or divest from fossil fuel companies as part of a goal to become net-zero of carbon emissions over the next few decades.

That includes BlackRock, the world’s largest asset manager, which last year decided to make sustainability the central focus of its investment strategy for the $6.3 trillion it manages for clients. Harvard University has instructed its $41 billion endowment to develop a strategy to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions from its investment portfolio by 2050. And the $226 billion New York State Common Retirement Fund has pledged to transition its investment portfolio to reach net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2040.

Additionally UK insurance and financial services giant Aviva said it aims to be net-zero of carbon emissions by 2040; the University of Cambridge said it will divest from all direct and indirect investments in fossil fuels by 2030 as part of the university’s plan to cut its greenhouse gas emissions to zero by 2038; and UK pension fund the National Employment Savings Trust (Nest), the largest pension in the country by membership, plans to halve the carbon emissions in its portfolio within 10 years and make it completely net-zero by 2050.

And these are just a small portion of the institutional investors that in recent years have pledged to eschew fossil fuels. 

The law could even put Texas at odds with the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics as the Vatican has called on its followers to divest from fossil fuels and has called for the reform of fossil fuel subsidies and the taxation of CO2 emissions.

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