Scott Evans: We’re Living in a Period of Time that’s Extraordinary

CIO of NYC pensions explains how he’s reaching for yield.

“I think we as an industry are failing,” said Scott Evans, deputy comptroller for asset management and CIO of the Office of the New York City Comptroller, at a panel on pensions at the SUNY Global Center on Thursday in Manhattan.

During the discussion, titled “Pensions in Doubt?,” Evans noted that, in a time where very few have access to full retirement benefits and people must be more self-reliant on their personal savings, the emotional distress of sticking to an investment plan and following through with it is the main reason future retirees need professional financial advice.

“The problem most people have is they can’t stomach buying things that are going down. They can’t take the risk. They have to have too much cash in the bank, and they can’t take looking at their statements going up and down all the time,” he said.

He mentioned how pension plans like his father and grandfather had earned worked for their time because most people were employed by the same company for the majority of their careers, with few exceptions—one being University professors, although their systems worked for them as well.

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“Almost no one has access to that today,” Evans said. “We have to save for our own retirement, get a little help from the company, put it in a 401(k) vehicle—but it’s our own decisions that guide them and, as a society, we suck at these decisions.”

On how the general population can improve this situation, Evans recommended lifecycle funds, also known as target date funds, as their best option. Once their age group and funds are put into an account, a person’s fund strategy will adjust via a professional fiduciary as they grow older and subsequently move into other age groups with different investment goals. For example, young investors fresh out of college would see portfolios with more high-risk investments, where those closer to retirement age would have portfolios holding more low-risk investments.

“It’s sort of set it and forget it. It’s good, and leaves you generally in the right direction and you can be far better off than if you’re left to your own devices,” Evans said.

Reaching for Pension Yield

When asked how he’s reaching for yield within the NYC pension funds, Evans said, “We’re living in a period of time that’s extraordinary. We’ve never gotten paid less to lend money to other folks,” speaking of the “extraordinarily overvalued” fixed income security markets that he’d normally use as insurance against inflation and deflation.

As a result, Evans explained that he is holding less credit debt than he typically would, “because you’re getting paid a very low spread relative to history.” He said he’ll also be holding fewer mortgage-backed securities over the next few years, because the Federal Reserve’s activities have been shrinking the premia. To give his portfolio “insurance,” he holds a bit more in “very liquid” treasury securities. “That seems counter-intuitive because treasury securities, as we know, are incredibly overvalued. But they’re very pure insurance for you. And if things happen to return those credit spreads to normal, it won’t affect the treasury securities. You can control the sensitivity of treasury securities to inflation very easily,” he said.

For risk assets, he said he’s holding “high-yield securities, other types of leveraged loans, etc.,” and “making sure that we spread out our bets and that we’re not concentrated in any type of risk premium security. So, we’re holding a more diversified portfolio than we would otherwise.”

Despite the careful allocation, Evans isn’t overly optimistic.

“We’re trying to condition everyone who depends on the returns that we’re going to go through a period of time when we have sub-par returns. On the fixed income side, there is almost no escaping it with rates today,” he said.

While Evans calls long-only public equities the workhorse of the New York City portfolios, for delivering risk premia over time, diversified across the US, the funds also invest in developed markets measured by the Morgan Stanley EAFE Index. The funds also invest in emerging markets, but not as broad as the market itself due to reticence from the funds’ board members, which stems from legal practices, among other things.

“We stay pretty close to the long-term allocations across these three sleeves of activity,” said Evans, who likens his pension fund to an ocean liner that stays the course and doesn’t make sudden movements. “The outlook for non-US sectors is a little better.”

“The prices are a little better relative to earning, so you’re getting more earnings for your money, particularly in emerging markets,” Evans said. “The growth of the economies, particularly in Europe, is lagging the US a bit, so it’s just picking up steam where it’s fully recognized in the US and US multiples. The prices you’re paying for earnings aren’t going to break your knuckles.”

With 70% of the fund’s portfolio trying to capture risk premia, 15% in defensive securities, and the remainder in assets that perform well during inflation, Evans considers the portfolio’s allocations to be “fairly conventional” for a pension fund. There is, however, one “quirky” New York law that prevents all public funds from investing more than 25% of their portfolios in alternative asset classes, which it calls “basket securities.” 

“It’s a quirky thing that’s unique to us. The important thing about it is it keeps us from holding as much illiquid securities as we would otherwise like to do,” Evans said. “It’s a constant conversation that we have with the New York State Teachers [Retirement System], New York City Common [Retirement Fund], and we have with the governor in trying to get relief from this.”

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In Depth: ESG Investing Is Here to Stay

As asset owners’ fervor surrounding environmental, social, and governance (ESG) and impact investing intensifies, sustainable investing has emerged as an integral part of investment frameworks. While the motivation behind...

As asset owners’ fervor surrounding environmental, social, and governance (ESG) and impact investing intensifies, sustainable investing has emerged as an integral part of investment frameworks. While the motivation behind the integration of ESG within the investment decision process varies, investors are nevertheless formalizing their commitment through policy and/or increasing their allocation of assets to sustainable investing. And asset managers are paying attention.

Earlier this month, the world’s largest pension plan, Japan’s $1.37 trillion Government Pension Investment Fund (GPIF), partnered with the World Bank Group with the ultimate goal of committing more capital to ESG strategies across investment verticals. The initial steps of the collaboration include a research program focused on the sustainable fixed-income market. Nearly 44% of GPIF’s assets were in fixed-income assets as of the end of June.

“This is a unique opportunity for GPIF and the World Bank Group to make a valuable contribution towards the Sustainable Development Goals, providing practical solutions to catalyze the development of sustainable fixed-income markets,” Hiro Mizuno, CIO of GPIF, stated in a release. “This partnership strongly reflects GPIF’s strategic commitment in advancing the integration of environmental, social, and governance considerations in all asset classes of its portfolio.”

Similarly, the CAD286.5 billion Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec (CDPQ) echoed its focus on sustainable investing when it announced a CAD8 billion commitment to low-carbon investments by 2020. “Our strategy is based on a fundamental commitment,” Michael Sabia, the fund’s president, stated on its website. “From now on, climate change will factor in each and every investment decision we make across the breadth of our portfolio.” The fund intends to treat climate change in the same way it treats other risk factors fundamental to its decision-making process.

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This consideration of climate risks was in part driven by the impact of the Paris Agreement, changing consumer choices, and technology market technology, a CDPQ spokesperson told CIO. “Our new investment strategy sets out targets and tools for taking concrete and constructive action, as an investor, in the global challenge that the transition toward a low-carbon economy represents.”

CDPQ is not the only investor upping its ante within the ESG space. In October, the McKnight Foundation increased its allocation to Generation Management’s Global Equity Fund, to $75 million from $25 million, and moved the strategy from its experimental impact portfolio to the main $2.2 billion endowment. Over the past three years, the strategy returned 17.3% annualized versus the MSCI World benchmark’s 6.6% as of June 30.

“[Generation sees] sustainability as an organizing imperative of the new global economy—a point of view that harmonizes with McKnight’s grant-making goals,” according to the fund’s website. Further, every two years the foundation evaluates the carbon intensity of its public portfolio and the ESG capacity of its fund managers.

In similar vein, Georgetown University’s $1.5 billion endowment approved a Social Responsible Investing Policy in June that includes the incorporation of ESG factors into its evaluation of direct investments and external investment managers.

Likewise, the $110 billion University of California Regents announced the formalization of ESG considerations within its investment policy statement over the summer.

“ESG investing among endowments is taking off,” asserted Georges Dyer, a principal at the Intentional Endowment Network, a nonprofit supporting learning and action on sustainable investing. “Increasingly, endowments are seeing that sophisticated consideration of ESG issues is fundamental to prudent long-term investing. The fact that this aligns with their institutional purpose to improve society through education and research makes it all the more compelling.”

Mounting demand

The mounting interest and demand for sustainable investing has not gone unnoticed by investment managers. “ESG has become more present in our client conversations, when compared to five or six years ago,” Hugh Lawson, managing director and global head of ESG and impact investing at Goldman Sachs, told CIO. “If you want to be a full-service wealth manager and investment advisor to institutions, you have to have a rigorous ESG capability to be credible. Just in the same way people look to us around asset allocation or portfolio construction or risk management.”

The fund manager’s ESG/impact-oriented assets increased to more than $10 billion from about $500 million over the past two years. About one-third of the increase stems from institutional capital. In 2015, Goldman acquired Imprint Capital, a dedicated ESG and impact investing advisory firm. The firm has collaborated with its clients on a number of ESG strategies, including a $2 billion low-carbon equity strategy for the $197.1 billion New York State Common Retirement Fund.

The level of interest and the excitement we have around the solutions we’re developing are consistent across asset classes,” added Lawson. “In equities, data continues to be the vexing issue. We are looking into ways to use AI [artificial intelligence] to gather relevant data rather than relying on company disclosures.”

Other market practitioners also recognize the increased demand for sustainable investments and are expanding their ESG offerings and resources accordingly. For example, over the past month:

  • Nuveen, the investment manager, introduced an ESG-oriented US bond exchange-trade fund to its product offerings.
  • BlackRock hired a former adviser to President Obama’s administration on climate change to spearhead its sustainable investing efforts, according to recent reports.
  • MSCI, a provider of research-based indexes and analytics, launched MSCI Factor ESG Target Indexes, designed to help investors integrate ESG considerations within factor investing.

While there has been a proliferation of ESG strategies within the marketplace, the levels of integration might vary dramatically, according to Scott Perry, a partner at consulting firm NEPC. “As a result, there is an opportunity for advisors and asset owners to discern who the true ESG asset managers are, how these funds are incorporating ESG into their strategy and what the potential benefit is to investors,” he said.

Jamie Kramer, ESG lead at J.P. Morgan Asset Management, agreed. “There is not a one-size-fit-all approach to ESG, she said. “For example, we’ve seen different approaches to sustainability even when it comes to managing carbon exposure,” she said. 

While European investors initially led the interest for ESG assets, there has been an uptick in demand by Asian and US clients over the past few years. “Clients are thinking about ESG integration from a risk management perspective,” Kramer said. “These nonfinancial metrics, when material, do impact earnings. Clients want to see how ESG is integrated in our investment-decision process.”

Kramer expects the institutional appetite for sustainable investing to rapidly rise over the next few years. “ESG investing now has a formal, undeniable seat at the investment table,” she said.

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